Windows 10 Kiosk Mode/Assigned Access Setup - Rise as Official Windows App/Powershell

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I'm wondering if anyone else would like the ability to lock-down a Windows 10 version of the Rise Player software? When deploying Win7 versions of the player software there were times were popups/system notifications (even with all system notifications set to off, accessibility features turned off, etc), especially the Win10 Free Upgrade notifications...would pop-up on displays.

This would be a large inconvenience, as it would block content and as we have one sign that hits a cable encoder and broadcasts to 1,700 TVs, we would have 1,700 displays with an error message....

Windows 10 offers the ability to run an app under assigned access, (or via the Shell Launcher with Enterprise, which I'm exploring today and thinking this will be a lower hanging fruit) locking down notifications, and other system notifications, etc. Is there any interest in Rise creating an official app? Has anyone used the Shell launcher to create this interface?

Relevant Links:
Setup a device in kiosk mode
Specific Instructions, Powershell method at bottom

**If there is no interest in kiosk mode, is there a set of best practices for removing/locking down as many system notifications, items that will interfere with content?**
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The RV Windows player is definitely a "classic" windows application so the second of your two options is the only way. You can actually use the "shell replacement" method in Windows 7 and it works quite well. Until you have to update something or work on the player, then it's a real PITA. :)

When we still ran Windows devices we replaced explorer.exe with the Rise Player and after some tinkering got it working quite well but found long term admin to be an issue. Without Explorer, some applications and parts of the OS don't work or don't work as expected. 
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There was a timed, (regular tempo) audio/video distortion that would occur, every ~5seconds, where the audio would skip/drop, and the video had a very hard to discern pause.

Much appreciated on the chromebox testing, let me know how it goes. I have the Dell chromebox, i3-4030u, with 4gb RAM. I've created a display/schedule if you'd like, here's the ID: AQ37PTTSWAGB

Agreed, the automatic video resolution detection line is a bit foreboding. Honestly the custom resolution is at the bottom of the whiteboard...Will update as moving through the different resolutions.
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I'm running just your presentation on a Chromebit CS10 right now to see how it does. So far so good! I added "&showui=false" to the end of the link so it'll run as it would in real life. I've also got the presentation running on one of our production Asus Chromebox M004U to compare performance. Both are running Chrome 47.0.2526.110 under our managed domain.

I'll load that display ID onto an Asus M004U Chromebox later today that's running Chrome 49.0.2623.111. That's my test unit in my office. 
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Mark,

I ran out of time to load the display ID you gave me onto my test machine. However, I did leave the presentation running on the Chromebit and the M004U Chromebox.

The Chromebit worked fine for a few hours and then the videos just stopped playing (black box). Everything else continued to run. No errors. 

The Chromebox worked fine for a few hours and then went black screen with the frowny face computer. It self-reset and continued merrily along it's away. However, when I pulled the device logs from the management console there were 11 out of memory errors. That doesn't surprise me given how media-rich (and beautiful) your presentation is. One of the memory errors coincided with the error on screen. If you'd like the logs, let me know and I'll get them to you.

Our devices only have 2gb of RAM as our needs are far simpler than yours. It would seem RAM is the achilles heel in this case. 

One thing that occurred to me on your audio/video glitch issue with Ubuntu is HDCP. We've run into this before when connecting HDMI equipment in a production environment and/or to QAM encoders. Different OS's implement HDCP differently. We've had good luck using HDCP compliant splitters as an intermediary. The computer "handshakes" to the splitter and then everything downstream just gets the signal without issue. 

Sorry for the LONG topic swerve here but your use case is similar to ours so I love to learn more and (possibly?) help where I can. 
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Please don't apologize for the "swerve", Ms. Suarez's comment below reinforces what I'd found yesterday, and as such has essentially resolved the issue.

Agreed, the memory scenario was also what I was seeing with the 4gb ChromeBox, though I believe there were also additional, immediate, errors when hooking the machine up to the encoder.

I'll look into the HDCP splitter as well (something like this or here?) as this may allow us to use an Ubuntu box and move away from all the pop-ups that windows and associated programs tend to use. Much appreciated, and I'll follow up if we end up purchasing/testing anything further.
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We've used this one and units similar: http://www.amazon.com/HD-102-Powered-Splitter-Certified-Support/dp/B005HXFARS/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&...

We tried the more expensive units from Extron but they're fussier about HDCP. The cheap Chinese units just appear to your computer like a generic 1920x1080 @ 60Hz display. 

I'd grab the eBay unit and give it a try! Keep us posted for sure. 
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Hi Mark,
We have researched into both Assigned Access and Shell Launcher for the Rise Windows Player - this was prompted by a touch screen/interactive issue that we came across. The solution that we arrived to, rather than going down that route, was to kill explorer and the reason why you need to Ctrl+Alt+Delete to access Task Manager and then run explorer.exe from it to go back to desktop.
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Much appreciated, I noticed explorer not starting after exiting Rise (only have Win10 in testing right now, and I haven't used it extensively), and glad to see it honestly.

I plan to generate a few pop-ups and see how things react but fingers crossed for no pop-ups. Thank you for the response.
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Let us know how you go!