What kind of players do you recommend?

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Hello Everyone,
I was wondering what kind of players everyone is using? I am looking to try different players we are trying to keep it cheap so if anyone knows the best player to use. Please let me know. Priced under $100 would be nice no more than $250. We will use it for live streaming/ conference calls and normal signage presentation.
Please let me know what is best or worked for you.
Thank you,
JB
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I'd be hesitant to use the same hardware for both. They're rather disparate use cases. Also that's a big ask for a $100 device! 

We recently began thorough testing of a Google Chromebit (Asus CS10) and so far it's been lovely. They do need to be managed though (like any other Chrome device). Hard to beat for $84 plus the mgmt license (cost varies depending on your needs). 
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Depends on what you mean by normal signage presentation. We have a hardware recommendations thread at https://community.risevision.com/rise... if you want to browse through and cross post the question. Thanks!
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JB, it is not impossible to get all you need form a $100 device, but I would really question reliability and overall performance of such player. I am rooting for Windows devices at this point. Chromes are a bit too limited for my liking. I like all the bells and whistles of a real full blown OS. We had pretty decent success with rather weak Intel Compute Sticks, but we decided to upgrade to a better performance. This seems to be working quite well http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product... We actually went with Pentium CPU because it is noticeably faster than Celeron. You gonna need 4GB of RAM and a hard drive. I am recommending to go with SSD, which you can get for $30-40 for like 240GB and this is way more then you really need (can go with cheaper and lower capacity, but really price vice does not make much sense). The worst part of that is OS. You can install free Ubuntu or pay another $100 for Windows Pro or find other ways to get it cheaper http://www.kinguin.net/catalogsearch/... .
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Chromebits have been amazing for us.. all for 125 managed. We have 14 now..Maybe worth testing for your presentation.
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What sort of content are you showing on them? We just began testing and so far have done full screen 1080p video without issue as well as some scrolling event data (images and google sheet embed). 
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Steven,
 Thank you for your suggestion for the chromebit. I don't think that Chromebit could handle live video, one way, conference calling to all my signs. I am now looking  for something strong enough, yet not break the bank, to handle that. 
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No problem.. 
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Chromebit are very nice devices but performance wise and security wise I would go with these type of devices that are both capable to stream HD videos and also the simple stuff
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The devices in question are "thin clients" of various sorts. They rely on a VDI or terminal server infrastructure to work. To use them effectively there's a server required to drive all the endpoints. The server is a rather beefy Windows Server machine with all the right software, CALs, etc and depends on a high speed network. 

Target deployed something similar in some of their stores and the video link is a great example of why this doesn't really work very well: http://rvforums.s3.amazonaws.com/IMG_7915.m4v
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No... the devices are simple display adapters that work over your LAN and are connected to a single and standard PC. 

Doesn't need any Server machines or CALs...
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royt1979,

But can they be used as standalone kiosk units, not connected to anything, but the Internet?
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No - they must be connected via the LAN to a PC.
Usually in a scenario when you need multiple TV screens in one location.
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Only adding this here since no one has mentioned the product range in this thread but there is also Cenique which start from the $250 price range https://store.risevision.com/products/?cat=Media%20Players

You may want to look into other threads in Community that talk about Cenique before making the final decision and/or reach out to their support at support@cenique.com

Cenique is a third party device and they also offer third party widgets so you may also want to have a look through their documentation
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If price point is an issue:

Has anyone had recent Rise Vision experience with Intel Compute Stick both Windows 10 and Ubuntu Version?

I know the Ubuntu Version has less memory than Win 10 version, might be tempted to dump the low end Win10 and Install Ubuntu in the more memory version. We're going to test latest Rise Player over Ubuntu on our Intel i3 NUC. We had generally good luck but not perfect execution when we last tried that (Ubuntu 13.??) so I might as well try a Compute Stick as well

Here's a tip:  We multi boot our demo NUC  with different SSDs to test various OS and players.

I'd like comments on hardware and reliability of Compute sticks Intel and others.

Thanks,
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RPTDigital Signage,

Try searching for the recent posts, we have discussed Intel Compute Sticks before. I used and experimented with these. I would consider them for something basic. They do play videos and other more demanding stuff, but that full blown OS takes away a lot of juice from them so they take longer to boot up and start new processes. If that is not an issue, go ahead they are fine. However, their built in WiFi adapter is piece of $h1t. For WiFi you would need another adapter with antenna (about $20). There is also USB hub/Ethernet adapter of ~$15, which i recommend for wired connection. I found them very stable at my desk, but we had many stability issues at the site were we deployed these, but I do not think all these issues were 100% related to the device itself. Something over there made these devices to crash.

Ubuntu model is less expensive, but also has less RAM and storage available. Also I have seen comments that Ubuntu model is very unstable. I cleaned one of our Windows 10 models and installed Ubuntu. RV app on this machine is freezing like a lot, rendering it unusable. Not sure where the problem, do not care. Will put Windows 10 back on it.

So far, the most stable build I have had was Intel NUC with Pentium processor/4GB of RAM/240GB? SSD/Windows 10 Pro. This guy is yet to fail and it is on WiFi network and is actually running interactive directory on ELO touchscreen. I am sure this is what we are gonna go the next time too. We have another NUC with Windows 7 from RV store that replaced our Intel Stick, and it has been also very stable, but I do not like Windows 7.
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Hi JB,
Did you end up settling with a player or was it the Cenique devices?
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Yes I am testing right now 2 of the C110 Android Cenique devices. 

I am having communication issues with the 2 Cenique devices and the presentation.

One issue I have found is I set the time for the Cenique text scrolling Gadget to stop at a specific time and it should disappear on my presentation and it does not stop or disappear, but it does sometimes change the content. If I preview the presentation it functions properly, but not on the signs.

If I set both the Video message and the text scroll to timeout, one sign times out but the other does not. or One sign has the video but no text scrolling.

Is there a way to get the players to communicate better.

The little heart keeps turning red on one or the other sign.

Do i need to set something differently?

Please let me know
Thank You,
JB
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Hi JB,
Cross posting from the other thread, but I'd recommend getting in touch with Cenique support about that. Their details is at http://store.cenique.com/contact-info