The newest version of the Rise Vision Chrome App Player has been released!

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EDIT MARCH 21, 2018: Please note that all conversations related to Chrome OS in this Community should be considered obsolete and out of date. As announced in our new Community, Rise Vision is adding support for Chrome OS with a new version of Rise Player for Chrome OS.

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Hello everybody,We recently deployed our latest version of the Rise Vision Chrome App Player which includes the ability for Display Control.Display Control is a feature that can turn an LCD Display on or off according to a Schedule the Display is assigned to. For example, if you define your Schedule to play from 8:00 AM to 5:00 PM, Display Control will turn your LCD Display on at 8:00 am, and off at 5:00 PM.You can read all about the Display Control feature here.Some users may notice that when the Rise Vision Chrome App Player starts up after being updated to this new version, it will be disabled, showing a message stating "The newest version of Rise Vision Chrome App Player has been disabled because it requires more permissions." Pressing the Re-enable button will get everything back up and running as expected. This will be the only time it requests this permission.I'll be publishing another forum post where users can share the specific On/Off hex codes for specific monitors to use with the Display Control feature.Let us know if you have any questions!
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Here is the conversation for the specific On/Off hex codes for Displays.

Be sure to add yours in there if you start using the Display Control feature on your Display!
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I assume this has been tested with an Intel NUC and a usb to serial adapter?
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Actually, I used the NEC Ops Box for both Windows and Linux, a Mac Mini for Mac, and a Chromebox for ChromeOS.

I did indeed use a USB to Serial cable though, the Sabrent SBT-USC6K.

Thanks!
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Hi Rob,

I'm setting up 5 new displays and I'm on the fence about which devices to purchase. I currently have 1 running a Chromebox, which is great, but I want to set up Display Control. Did you test the Sabrent cable on Chromeboxes?
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Rob,
What is the purpose of the player? Here is my situation....
I'm running two displays at an Elementary school.
1. Front office
2. Main Hallway where parents and students enter

I have two NEW mac minis mounted just beside the flat screens that are connected to our network wirelessly.

Since I can't use the player app on the macs because of OS issues?
I control the system (remotely) using LANSCHOOL.

Here is what I'm wondering:
If I had a player that could run the software (excuse me because i don't know all the technical jargon) like those pre-installed ones. What is that allowing me to do? Can I control the displays while I'm off campus? Can anyone I give permission to also control them?

While the setup I have is working fine, the one limitation is that I'M THE ONLY ONE that can control them and I HAVE to be at my desk on MY computer to do this. Which means I work on the presentation at my desk. Go to the Mac mini (via lanschool) and "VIEW" the presentation in the web browser...using the &showui=false...code at the end of the URL, set the browser to display full screen and in presentation mode. THEN, even tho I can "see" the displays (thru the lanschool console) on my computer, I have to PHYSICALLY go to see that it is indeed displaying correctly on the monitors.

Funds are limited and we have already bought these mac minis, but upon using it for the last couple of months and learning more about it (I didn't have all this info when I purchased the macs) I feel like I should probably invest in the player with the installed software because that would allow me to

1. control the displays from anywhere...even off campus
2. don't have to show it in the browser "view" mode
3. more people (principal, admins) could also control the system in the event I'm not here?

Does this make sense to you? Is it worth ditching the macs and going with a system? I've even thought about the Raspberry Pi's We are not displaying anything too challenging...just twitter feed. Picts, slideshows, etc.

What would you recommend. I'm willing to buy different controllers. I did read where you used something called eeeboxes....or something like that. We could always put the mac mini's in offices or classrooms...because they are brand spanking new. :-)

Any thoughts from anyone are appreciated.
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You can run the Chrome App Player on the Macs. This would give you the leverage to use the Macs as an actual Display, and not have to resort to the Preview URL. You can install it from here, and get additional information about configuring the Macs here.

Yes, you can create/edit the Presentations, along with other actions, from any computer that has internet access. When you Publish the changes, the Displays that are showing that Presentation update automatically. You can add additional users to your company and give them roles to edit/publish Presentations, manage Displays, Administer the account (ability to add users/manage roles).

Please let us know if you need anything else.

Thanks!
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Is this only for the Chrome App, or does it work with the stand-alone installer as well?
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Hi Matt,

The ability to turn a screen off is currently limited to the Chrome App Player.

Thanks.
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Are there plans to move this to the stand-alone app? I really could use this feature, but I much prefer the simplicity of the stand-alone version.
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Matt,

As of right now, we're just limiting it to the Chrome App Player.

Thanks.
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Is it possible to Rise Player Display Control presentation page without the actual usb to serial adapter installed? Or does it need to detect some form of connection before the control presentation page shows up?

I'm referencing Step 3 of the "How to Configure Display Control Commands" page...As of right now, the test schedule I have running pops up and runs all the other presentations but the configuration page does not appear.

Please advise.

Thanks.
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LS,

Can you confirm that you're using the Chrome App Player? If you're using the native Windows, or native Linux Player, that particular page won't show.

You do not need to have a serial cable plugged in, but you won't be able to choose the Serial Port in the dropdown.

Thanks.
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Neal,
I am seriously considering the Chrome OS Player as a new option for deployment, Have one on its way to start testing and playing with. With this Display Control On/Off aspect it is a big advantage over my linux player and seems like it will be a very reliable player/ system. 

Does this display control aspect work with any screen if you can find the hex code, or seems this serial port aspect will work as well?

What I am think is can I use basic consumer grade LED screens? Say your average 50" 1080p 60hz screen(Insignia, LG, Westinghouse, HiSense etc) you buy from a retailer like say best buy and be able to set a power on and power off time directly through the RV player interface?

I know most "consumer" Grade displays dont have on/off setting in there menu interface.

I have several displays is there anywhere i can find these codes for display manufacture and model? 

If this works it is big for us

Cheers!
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We have only tried it with the Serial adapter.  In terms of getting the Hex codes, the best bet would be to contact the manufacturer of the screen to see if there are any available for a given model.

I don't see why it wouldn't work with any screen using Hex codes for control.

Thanks.
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Thanks, are there any video tutorials on this yet
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There aren't any videos regarding setting up the Display Controls, but its really just a matter pointing the Display to the appropriate web page and enter the information required. The Display Control page goes over the steps.

Thanks.
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LS,

Sorry, I just noticed that the first step was modified in a way where it didn't tell you the Template Presentation to use. This has since been corrected and should make more sense now.

Thanks.
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Hi Neal,

Thanks for the reply.

I downloaded and ran the Chrome App Player yesterday on Ubuntu. Originally, I believe I was usually the native linux player. Is there a way to verify which player is running first? Or should I get rid of the files from the linux player all together?

I'm not too familiar with rs232 set up and control and am pretty much playing around with it right now. Aside from the Display Control via rise vision, would it be necessary for me to download any other programs for control to work?

Any insight would be great.

Thanks.
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You shouldn't need to download any other program for the Display Control to work. The Display should accept the commands they are given.

I know that some Displays have software that you can use to try out the commands to turn it off and on, but they would be used independently of our Display Control.

At the very least, I would verify that the Startup Applications list doesn't have the command to the native Linux Player enabled. This way it won't be trying to start when booting up. Removing the /rvplayer folder isn't necessary.
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Ok, so I have made sure of the following:

-Running on Chrome App Player.
-Rise Player Display Control presentation page is published and within my test schedule.

The only thing I am missing is:

-I still have yet to plug in and set up the actual usb to serial adapter and configure that end of things.

I have the Rise Player Display Control presentation page set as the 1st item to show up on the test schedule, however, when player kicks in all I see is a white screen...it doesn't show me the Rise Player Display Control box as presented on your display control commands page.

Am I missing a step other than the obvious of not plugging in the adapter?
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If I'm looking at the proper Display, it appears to be using the native Linux Player.

When you stop the native version of the Player (ALT+F4), you'll need to also stop the java processes so that the Player doesn't restart. You can do this by opening a Terminal Window and typing "killall java"

You can then run the Chrome App Player.

Thanks.
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@Robb, could you please explain a little more how "Display Control" actually works. The link in your original post (http://www.risevision.com/display-control/) shows a 404.

Does this allow me to schedule Chromeboxes to shutdown their screens during a certain period?
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Hi Philippe, Display Control is meant to allow you to turn off monitors; I wasn't positive from your question if you are trying to shut down the chrome box itself.  Display Control can't be used to schedule any shutdown of the monitors but in the past, when the Schedule was set to turn off, it would turn the Display off.  Display Control hasn't been tested in a very long time so things may have changed.

However, to answer your question about how to use it: in order to use Display Control you would need the hex code from the manufacturer to turn the screen on and off.  You would need to be able to connect to the screen on a serial port, usually by a USB converter since no one has serial anymore.  Then go to http://localhost:9449/dc, and enter the codes for on / off in there, and ensure they are connected on the right serial connector.