Set to auto-start on Chromebox?

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Hi Guys!Just got back from four days onsite at an install, and my new Chromeboxes were waiting for me!! So now for the first and obviously stupid question:How do you set Chrome OS to launch the RV app on startup? I know it can be done easily with Kiosk mode, but I'm wondering if it's possible without Kiosk mode. I've read that you can only do it after the user logs in, but I'm hoping that's not the case. Any ideas? I'm hoping to avoid leaving a keyboard connected, but can't do that with the login screen.On a related note, if Kiosk mode is the only way to do it, what happens if the network settings change? Will Chrome let you change the network settings if it loses connection in kiosk mode? Any experience with this, or should I just set it up and then unplug the router to see? These boxes are just for testing right now, so I can essentially do anything with/to them right now.
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Due to the way the Chrome OS is, you'll need to set it up in Kiosk mode in order to avoid having to manually log in each time the computer starts. I would recommend going over How to set up Kiosk mode if you haven't done so already.

If you need to log back in on the machine, you can restart it, and when the Rise Vision Player app is initializing, you should be able to press CTRL+ALT+S (it will say this onscreen) to then get to a login prompt. What type of network changes are you referring to?
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Okay, cool, that's what I was wondering. As far as network changes, I'm just thinking if the client changes their wireless configuration or something, and needs to be able to put in a new wireless password to get it back online. The Ctrl+Alt+S thing would do it, but wasn't sure if it would pop up something above the presentation in Kiosk mode to let them update the password.
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Since Neal didn't weigh in (probably because it was a stupid question, but I didn't see it in the documentation) on the network settings thing, I figured I would add to this, since I just saw it. A bit of background first to explain:

We were looking for a signage solution that we could configure at our office and ship out all over the country to our clients, but the NUCs we've been using have given us some hassle at times, and Chromebooks were giving resolution issues (something that has been corrected perfectly, as of last week). I decided to try the Chromebox, and the shipment arrived Friday. Because these systems should run the presentation and nothing else, installing the Rise Vision Chrome App Player in Kiosk mode is pretty perfect, but because this was my first chance playing with a Chromebox, I didn't want to do that so that I could still mess around with the system. Once I got over that, I installed in Kiosk mode and everything works perfect!

My network question was basically how a client can set up their wireless when these Chromeboxes arrive, since Kiosk mode keeps you from doing anything else. I didn't see it in the documentation (I may have just missed it though), so I was afraid the boxes would just start the RV App and fail for not having a network connection, and I'd have to attempt walking a client through wiping a device, setting up the network, and then re-installing the app. But no!!

When you have a Chromebox or Chromebook in Kiosk mode and the Rise Vision app starts and sees no network connection, a little line comes up on the startup screen saying "Configure Network Settings." You click on that, enter the system password, set up the network through the initial Chrome OS network setup screen, and once it's set up, the Rise Vision app comes right back and runs beautifully! Most of you are probably thinking that's perfectly obvious, but I didn't know and I hadn't taken the Chromebox to a different location yet to test it (and didn't want to find out the hard way on an install), so I thought I'd point it out!

So if anyone is wondering, in my experiences so far, the Chromebox works spectacularly as a Rise Vision player! Keep up the great work, guys!
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Thanks for the tip Chad!
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I'm not sure if something's changed, but even though I have my chromebox set up in kiosk mode, I can't find any settings that allow the RV app to auto start on boot.
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When you hit "CTRL ALT K", are you given any indication that it went into kiosk mode? Mine does nothing.
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"CTRL ALT K" will only work if no one has EVER logged in to the box.
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Woo-Hoo! Apparently the problem lies in the fact that a Powerwash doesn't completely erase the device. I also reinstalled the OS from USB with no luck. What finally worked was to follow the instructions here: https://support.google.com/chrome/a/a... using a WIRED keyboard to wipe the device. After that, everything worked flawlessly. Hopefully the person at Google was misinformed, and we can continue to use these devices.
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Thanks to everyone who helped me with this.
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ChadK, which Chromebox did you go with? Looking to do a one display setup for our school.
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I've got an ASUS Chromebox I'm trying to get working in kiosk mode. I followed the excellent instructions here, and I have the Chromebox autostarting into the Rise Vision app, but every time I boot it says "Waiting for application window" on screen, with the "configure network" prompt below it. If I click on "configure network" and enter my password, it just hangs there. If I use CTRL-ALT-N and log in, I get the screen that says "Network connectivity restored" and when I select "Continue" it just does the same thing again. I'm so close but I can't get out of this loop. If I log in regular ChromeOS mode the network works fine. I've tried it on Ethernet and over wireless and it's the same result. Any thoughts?
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Mike,

I'm running the same version with bluetooth disabled. 

Can you try the following steps and let me know how it goes?

  • Wipe Data on Chromebox
  • After wipe is completed, you will be at the welcome screen. (Input your network information, but DO NOT LOGIN to the Chromebox)
  • At the login screen, press CTRL+ALT+K and enable Kiosk mode.
  • Login into the Chromebox
  • Open a new tab in Chrome, and enter chrome://extensions in the address bar (also known as the omnibox). Click enter.
  • Check the box next to Developer Mode.
  • Click Add kiosk application, and enter the ID of the Kiosk App you'd like to enable.
  • Highlight the Kiosk App and select "auto launch"
  • Press Enter or click Done.
  • Reboot and when asked, enable app for Kiosk mode
  • Now the app will auto launch each time you reboot.
  • To Turn off Kiosk Mode, begin by rebooting the Chromebox. While the device is starting up, press the keyboard shortcut Ctrl+Alt+S to interrupt the process and return to the login screen.
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I did this. The app runs fine the first time, I enter the Display ID, and I get the display I expect and it runs fine. The problem seems to happen when I reboot the machine., which I've been doing by the power button or disconnecting it. Is there another way to shut it down safely that I should do so the settings continue to work? I'm leaving it running for now.
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Mike,

I power down the machine by pressing the power button twice.
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I think this might have been it. It looks like by forcing it to reboot it wasn't staying in a well-configured state. I've now rebooted it twice (once through the Rise Vision admin site, and once by hitting the power button twice) and it seems to be working now. It even seems to work okay if it shuts down abruptly as long as it shuts down in an orderly fashion the first time. Obviously we need it to work after a power failure. So I can remember to do a clean shutdown when I configure these. Thanks for your help.
Hi Blake,

I followed your procedure above but there is no "auto launch". I have an asus chromebox. I still need to type in the password before the presentation launch, which I wanted it to auto launch after power failure with typing in password.

thanks in advance.
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  • Click Add kiosk application, and enter the ID of the Kiosk App you'd like to enable.
How do you find the ID for the Rise VIsion Chrome App?
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Jacob,

The app ID is mfpgpdablffhbfofnhlpgmokokbahooi you can access that by searching for Rise Vision Player in the chrome store. The app ID is the last string of characters on the URL.
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Hello Blake,
I have been trying for months to figure out how this Kiosk mode works.
I been able to add app and have the auto launch, but when I turn on the chromebox and get to the password window it gives me an error that the kiosk application could not be launch .
With Kiosk mode is it just turn on and log in automatically and play the app.
I just want to turn it on. Play 4k content with a video player and repeat the video clip until turning off the chromebox.
If you could help me out that would be great .
Our company uses a lot of the chromeboxes but no one has got the Kiosk mode to work at all.
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Dumb question but is the Chromebox in the right OU and you've got it to auto launch? We've been running RV on our Chromebox for almost 9 months.
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Another Dumb question but what is the right OU? Please give me more info so I can see if I like the Kiosk Mode?
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Hi Extron Tradeshow, 

Sorry for the late reply somehow this got missed. What Kyle means by "right OU" is right Organizational Unit. This thread has more information on Chrome Management https://support.google.com/chrome/a/answer/1289314?hl=en

Let me know if you have any questions. 

Thanks,
Shea
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Has anyone figured out why auto launch does not show in an Asus Chromebox?  I also have HP Chromebox I just setup and auto launch was an option in the Manage Kiosk Applications window.
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Matt,

We have had other users report this feature missing from Asus Chromeboxes. We recommend using Chrome Management if you're using ChromeOS devices.

Justin
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I found it only showed up after wiping with a paperclip in the reboot hole and entering kiosk mode prior to first login ever.

Cheers
Rupert