New Year Countdown

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I'd like to do a New Year Countdown video and my question is can I expect it to run accurately on the run down to midnight? 

If my hardware is sync'd to the correct time accurately can the scheduling setup start the video at exactly one minute to midnight?

Would I set this up as:
A: a seperate presentation in its own schedule that can supercede all running presentations
B: within an existing running presentation

I have tried both methods without success. The presentation I added to contains elements that the new editor won't handle. So I set up a new presentation using the new editor which has timing to the minute and added this to a running presentation but it didn't trigger at my test time.

Anyone got some pointers to this? If its not possible I'll modify the video to be a generic Happy New Year without the countdown and let it run from midnight onwards..

Thanks for any assistance provided

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Jim Coyle
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Hi Jim,

The time that is set on your media player should be in synch with whatever timezone you are in. I would navigate to your control panel on the display to verify this.

Additionally, you could run a web page with a countdown using our Web Page Widget or even a live stream video using our HTML widget.

Ashleigh
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Hi Ashleigh and thanks for your comments and assistance.

I have been 'experimenting' and finally found a way that seems to be fairly accurate for my purposes albeit a bit on the cludgy side.

I have been able to get a presentation to run and then count down to midnight and play my 'Happy New Year' video to within one second. The slightest hiccup in the video playing can delay the countdown by a second or more but the best I have got is to within a second consistently. I have no control over any network hiccups so have to hope this is running smoothly with minimum problems and maximum connectivity.

I think if anyone in this venue where it will be played will be capable of noticing a one second hiccup then they are in the wrong place for a New Year celebration :)

Trouble is there will be secondary screens showing television broadcasting and they will also be doing a countdown so I am trying to ensure my presentation isn't a million miles out.

I tried using just scheduling timing but this didn't work satisfactorily. I then tried using a basic presentation and this worked but the pause between video's and the seemingly random stopping point made it hard to get timing right. By this I mean the presentation would contain multiple items all set to PUD and had a finite time so I would set a stop point for the main presentation and the Happy New Year video would start at one minute prior to the target time. However the main presentation wouldn't stop in the same place every time and could be many seconds different on each attempt. This obviously made the happy new year video start a few seconds out of time.

I ended up having the following items in the presentation - using the new editor and setting timings in the html code:

Main Presentation - contains the normal running videos and other content. All videos and content set to PUD and with a discrete end date and end time - the end time being two minutes before the target time

World Clock Widget - set to begin one minute and 59 seconds before the target time and running at one second intervals. Set to end one minute and one second before the target time. This acts as a buffer between the Main Presentation and the New Year video and 'soaks' up any overrun of a few seconds in the Main Presentation. The one second interval allows it to stop more accurately. It also looks allright as a 'prelude' to the New Year Countdown video starting

Happy New Year Main Video - set to begin one minute and one second before the target time and set to its exact running length of 79 seconds. 

Happy New Year Loop - set to begin one second after the Happy New Year Main Video ends and looping for the rest of the evening.

Whilst all a bit cludgy it seems to work consistently. The odd second or so in the timing seems to allow for transition between videos with minimum problems. I also used my Amazon AWS service to source the Happy New Year and Loop video's as this seems to run better than RV Storage and start quicker so the changeover from one video to the next is almost seamless. For the casual user it will be negligible - I think I will be the only one paying any attention to it..

The New Year Main Video and Loop Video are both using the html widget which also helps get a faster transition. The code for this was found here - https://community.risevision.com/rise_vision_inc/topics/is_there_currently_a_method_to_seamlessly_lo... in an answer from Joseph Mayberry

I'm sure there are many more elegant ways of doing the whole presentation and the effect I want in code but I don't have the time to investigate so will run with what I've got. Maybe do it in code for next year :)

My biggest issue is now with Windows and ensuring the OS has an accurate time. Even though it is set to synchronise every day I am finding it is inaccurate - my current desktop in now running at 1.8 seconds out of sync when checked with http://time.is/ and this increases over the day. The hardware I am using is running Windows and suffers the same inaccuracy.

On the evening of the celebration I will sync the times and ensure all players are in sync with exactly the correct time to minimise any inaccuracy.

Perhaps I am being overly exacting with this and not a sole will notice except me but if I can get it to within a second of the exact time for New Year it will be worth the effort and I'll have an additional reason to celebrate New Year and possibly have a little drink (or two)  :)

I'll let you know how I get on with this :)

regards,
Jim Coyle
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Thanks for sharing Jim :) 

Also I love this part:

I think if anyone in this venue where it will be played will be capable of noticing a one second hiccup then they are in the wrong place for a New Year celebration :)
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heheh - I live in Aberdeen in Scotland - its not unusual for us to get a bit lively at New Year :)

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Jim Coyle
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An update on Windows accuracy.

I have installed an application that keeps Windows to within a few milliseconds of the exact time.

I found this site which helped at http://www.satsignal.eu/software/ntp.htm

The application was found at https://www.meinbergglobal.com/english/sw/ntp.htm.

This uses the Network Time Protocol (NTP) which runs as a service within Windows. This application disables the normal Windows time updates.

This will help :)

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Jim Coyle
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Very nice! Thanks for sharing Jim.
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Well I am absolutely delighted as my presentation worked perfectly!!

Without any pre-preparation or pre-knowledge of what I was doing the live entertainment artist spotted the time clock widget start on the Digital Signage Screens employed in the venue which began at about 2 minutes to midnight and began the countdown. The singer just 'happened to see these screens and then focused on them as it obviously helped the group..

This was the World Clock Widget running from 11-28-00 which was then followed on with the video starting from 11-28-59 and running for a one minute countdown to the big event - the timing was within less than half a second and I couldn't have asked for a better response time.

The live artist pointed to the screens I was using and the whole venue was watching my presentation video on the countdown to midnight and it was totally accurate and the crowd were shouting the seconds from 10 to zero and then a big 'HURRAH' at midnight as the clock struck midnight!

Maybe I am being 'silly' with my delight at this but I have put a lot of effort into testing and to see it actually work gives me a lot of confidence in both the hardware and the Rise Vision software capabilities so all in all it has been an absolutely great start to 2016.

I hope your  New Year celebrations have seen so satisfying and I wish everyone who is participates in this forum a prosperous and happy New Year

(my edit - it has taken me at least half an hour to type this as my fingers seem to have amind of therre own sa is normal for a Scotsman on New Years mornign)

regards
Jim Coyle
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Fantastic news Jim! Thanks for sharing!