Multiple Schedules for same display

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I would like to be able to configure multiple schedules for the same display, but running at different timelines. I can imagine configuring a schedule for each day of the week.
Or I would like to create a schedule that is supposed to run only during a certain event.

Is there a way to to this already?
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Hi Daniel,

With each Presentation you add to a Schedule, you can set its own individual Timeline so that it only shows at certain points of the day/week/month/year.
This image, taken from a sample Schedule, helps illustrate where to find the setting to accomplish this.


Edit: You can also find out more regarding Schedules here
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The UI in the latest Editor has changed. Go to the Schedules, then click on your playlist item, uncheck "Always" under Timeline field and then click on the value in the textbox. Here is the picture:

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I tried this, setting one schedule to end at 12:30 and the next to begin at 12:31 on both the schedule and playlest item. I still get a failure error saying two schedules are set to the same times, but they are not. What am I doing wrong?
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Debby,

Remember that A Display can only be in 1 Schedule at a time. Is that the message you are getting?

You can set more than 1 item to be in a Schedule, having 1 start end at 12:30, and the other start at 12:31, which I think is what you are trying to do. Here is how it would look:


Is that where you are having trouble?
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Thanks for the quick answer. But I always have multiple presentations that form a set and belong to a particular event for instance. then I want another set of presentations that has nothing to do with the previous one, and so one. Right now I would have to mix everyting in one big set (since only one schedule can run on each screen)... which is somewhat limiting.

I dream of the following feature:
-Have a default schedule that runs all the time.
-Additional schedules can be configured to run at particular times and override the default schedule.
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Ah, I understand now. Thanks for the idea.

If anybody else is interested in this, please be sure to up vote it by hitting +1!
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A default presentation would be really handy, at the moment if nothing is schedule we get the Rise demo... being able to replace this would be ideal... and a little more professional should anything go wrong with the schedule :)
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I'm looking for the same flexibility, I'm using the system in a pub/restaurant and would like to have a different schedule playing for certain nights/times of the week. (Example:  A standard schedule that runs all the time, but being able to schedule a special schedule to run during Happy Hour, Live Music Events, etc) 
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Yes - this would be really excellent to have - a usual schedule for regular times, and then the ability to set a special set of presentations on a particular day/time, when an event calls for it.... E.g. when you have a first class, create a display that welcomes people for the first time, then let it expire and allow the regular schedule to take over....
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i'm just bumping this idea back into your minds. I'm still waiting for this feature of having an overriding mode for schedules...
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Daniel, I agree with you. In my scenario I have a set of presentations that run everyday (in a schedule) and then when certain events/competitions are on I'd like to display a revised schedule. Sticking all the variations in one schedule is a little cumbersome.
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We appreciate the feedback Shaun.

Thanks.
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Same here, a default presentation that can be 'interrupted' by all kinds of temporary presentations would make Rise Vision very good for 24/7 broadcasting...
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Neal,

Out of interest do you know if anyone has developed a custom application to allow more flexible scheduling, i.e. multiple schedule per display?

Is this a limitation with how Rise has been developed and as such not easily resolvable?


Shaun
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Shaun,

I'm not aware of anything being built that would accommodate that functionality. Currently a Display can only be in one Schedule at a time, but you may want to take a look at our API's to see if there is a way to build what you need.
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Currently RV has a default presentation for any display lacking scheduled content.  Can we replace that presentation on a per company or per display basis?
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Daniel, 

That's not an option at this time.
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>>Feature Request
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Hi Robb
I'm coming back with this request of having a default schedule or default presentation that can be overrun or interrupted by presentations scheduled for certain events. 
or the ability to run multiple schedules for one display, and they are kind of mixed merged in the final playout.
Why are the plans at RV?
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Hi Daniel, I am reviewing the backlog over the next couple of weeks and will be compiling everything here for voting. Could I ask that you hold this question until I can get this done. Thanks!!
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Hi Daniel, a quick clarification on the problem to be solved for this idea:
  • There is no ability to over-ride a Schedule with another Schedule for either a defined period of time or manually by setting one Schedule to Pause and another to Active.
  • There is no ability to have a default Schedule to be used by Displays that have no assigned Schedule.
Daniel, do I have the above right?

Thanks!
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Hi Byron,

I think this is something that i have seen a lot of people requesting. Do you know if this is being worked on?

Thanks!
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At this point no, I'm just compiling notes on all of this and looking to confirm my understanding of the need so far. But, will keep everyone posted here as I go. Thanks!
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We are testing out RV now and this is one of the features we found lacking over our current system. What we have now allows for Global schedules and Local schedules. Is is very convenient to have core presentations assigned to the global schedule and when there is a special event at one location to add the additional presentation to just that one display using a local schedule for the display.

I surprised to find that I could not have multiple schedules assigned to all displays. I wanted to have a holiday schedule separate from promotional schedule.
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Technically you can already do this in Rise Vision, but you have to stop looking at presentations and schedules as distinctly separate things (in a lot of ways they aren't). The very short explanation is as follows: 

-- Scheduling options set within a presentation (including when, duration, and which displays) takes priority over those options set in the schedule (provided that you are not selecting times or displays that the schedule itself does not include). --


Now, the (much) longer version:

On a very simple level you can build a completely blank presentation with a single placeholder inside of it. Within this placeholder you can add as many presentation items as you would like, control the scheduling of those presentation items in terms of when to display, duration to display for, and which displays to display on. This scheduling option also supports the play until done setting, which I do not believe is available through the normal 'schedule'.

But on a more complex level you can use this 'empty' presentation as a universal presentation. Build content that you want as 'default' on all of your displays and then, in those areas where you want the ability to replace content, simply add a placeholder that includes both the 'default' content as well as embedded presentations that are the more specialized content. From inside of the presentation you can select which items to display on which displays, you can set duration, as well as selecting days of the week and date ranges over which your content should be displayed.

Once you have finished doing this you create schedules using these 'master' presentations that you go on to apply to your displays.



To address some of the more specific questions/comments:
- Default Schedule: Once you've built a 'master' presentation for your default schedule go to the "Network" tab on the RV platform and set this as the "Demonstration Presentation" this will display it on any displays that do not have a specific schedule set for them.

- Over Riding the default schedule: Once you have set up the "Demonstration Presentation" use the "timeline" options for any additional schedules that you create to have specific times for that default content to be overridden. When the schedule is not active the "Demonstration Presentation" will display, and when the schedule is active it will completely over-ride the "Demonstration Presentation"

- Setting Multiple Schedules for a single Display: Create a 'master' presentation for each of these schedules. Then add each of these master presentations to one final presentation or to a single 'master' schedule (you can go as many layers deep as you would like to build even more complex presentation schedules)
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Thanks for the input and lesson on scheduling, Joseph!
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I don't see any "Network" tab. Is there one in the current Risvision web interface? Plus, I'm afraid the explanation above is as clear as mud to me. It seems to me that a more thorough, step-by-step explanation of these complex "scheduling" options would benefit all RiseVision users.
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Never mind. I found out that the "Network" tab no longer exists. And I did find some RiseVision articles on simple and intermediate scheduling. Whether or not they will help me, I don't know yet,
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William,

Let us know if you have any questions after going through those.

Thanks!