Is there a "Play Until Done" selection for the HTML5 video widget?

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I can't find a PUD setting for the recommended HTML5 Video widget.

If a presentation is supposed to wait until, say a 4 minute video completes, will I have to type in 240 seconds for the duration?

Or is there a plan to include PUD in the HTML5 video widget as you did with the previous video gadget?

Thanks,
Robert
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Good afternoon Robert,

The Play Until Done feature for the HTML5 Video Widget and new Image Widget is available when there is more than one item in a placeholder. Please see the attached screenshot.


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I have a 4 minute video, and it's the only video in the HTML5 Video placeholder, and I want to go to the next presentation in the schedule after this one video plays until done.

So would I need to add a second video into the HTML5 Video placeholder, but have it display for zero seconds, so it wouldn't actually play? Would this method then give me the PUD functionality I need for the first video?

Thanks,
Robert

BTW, I never could get the new weather widget to resize properly, as the icons and space between the elements are larger than the older version.  So unfortunately, we're going to have to change the layout for our presentations to accommodate the 'larger minimum size' in this new version of the weather widget.
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rcruse,

Is the 4 minute video the only item in the placeholder? If you have ANY other items in the placeholder at all, you should be able to use the play until done functionality.
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It is the only video in the placeholder. I wanted to play this 4 minute video, which is the main focus of this particular 'video' presentation, and move onto the next presentation.

So I added another item (an image) to the placeholder with the video, but set "zero" as the display time. This did give the HTML5 video placeholder the PUD option for the video. So I checked it.

But when I went to add this presentation to a schedule,  you're still required to give this 'video' presentation itself it's own duration in the schedule. I tried leaving this 'video' presentation with the default time of 10 seconds, but even though it has a PUD video in a placehholder on this 'video' presentation, it stops playing after 10 seconds and goes on to the next presentation in the schedule.

So it seems the duration of the presentation set in scheduling overrides a PUD placeholder setting inside that very presentation. Again, I could convert the 4 minute video duration into seconds, and set the presentation's duration in the schedule manually to be 240 seconds ....  but that would render the PUD feature useless. So I must be missing something.

How would you suggest setting up a 'video' presentation so that the video inside a HTML5 video placeholder inside this presentation will play until done, and will keep this PUD functionality when adding this 'video' presentation to a schedule of other presentations in a queue?

Thanks,
Robert
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I just tried the same method, but using a Vimeo placeholder and a video from Vimeo (obviously).
But the schedule duration still overrides the Vimeo video clip's duration within the presentation.

I've read on these forums that there's been some talk about fixing this issue for over a year now. Can you tell me if this fix is coming out soon? Or is it not seen as a problem and not being worked on?

Meanwhile, I can't see how to play a video until it is finished if it's in a schedule of presentations, like all of our schedules are. 

Thanks,
Robert
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Robert,

You'll need to set the play time of this presentation in the schedule to the length of the video. At this time there is no discussion of implementing a play until done feature on the schedules tab.
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Huh. That's disappointing. A thread about this issue from about a year ago indicated that it was being looked into:

https://community.risevision.com/rise_vision_inc/topics/play_video_until_done
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Robert,

As far as I know there has been no internal discussion recently on this subject. You can keep up to date with changes by subscribing to our community announcements.
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A summary, then I have a question:

I've tried adjusting the timing of the presentation to match the duration of the video.  But the counter for the presentation and the video don't seem to start at the same time.

I initially tried setting the counter to the same duration as the video.  Afterward I also tried setting the counter between 1-10 seconds either shorter or longer than the video, searching for that sweet spot where they both match.

While I can get close,  the larger issue stopping this method from working seems to be that the video keeps the time 'index' from each play.

In other words, if the video presentation stops when there is 2 seconds left in the video, the next time this single video presentation runs, it starts playing the video again, but begins at the last 2 seconds of the video, and then starts over again.

This results in the next playback of the video to stop 4 seconds before it should, then on next playback, play the last 4 seconds of the video, then start again ... rinse and repeat ...

Is there at least a way to make the video start from the beginning each time it plays, rather than starting at the time where it last stopped?

That way, if I can match the video length and presentation duration down to a consistent 1-2 second variance between each other, we can kinda live with that.

At least it would let us begin to use video (and start thinking about how we're getting audio QC'ed/normalized for a consistent volume between videos themselves, AND different displays ...)

Anyway, this 'start at the beginning  of the video each time' function would be helpful.

Thanks much,
Robert
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I have experienced the same problem with Webm videos. Though I use PUD they keep looping. I am yet to get a handle on it and setting the play time to the length of the video creates the problem you described. I do agree that it would be great if you were able to set the play time to the length of the video but be guaranteed a restart of the video on each of its run.
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Thanks for the ideas guys. We'll consider these for the next version.
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I'm having the exact same problem, even when I set the duration to the exact length of the video. Has there been any progress on this issue?
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Aaron,

Play Until Done only displays after there is more than one item in a playlist.

You can create a blank text widget in the placeholder, then simply uncheck any displays for that widget. After that, the Video Widget will have a PUD selection.
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Aaron,

As stated above, for me the issue was that the duration of the presentation still doesn't respect the PUD duration setting of a video playing in a video widget placeholder. The presentation's duration (set in the schedule tab) instead overrules, making it almost impossible to sync the beginning/end of the video with the start/stop timing of the presentation which contains it. The video is always clipped, and it starts (and ends) at varied points during playback.

I've beaten this dead horse so much, in different threads over the past year and a half, and tried all the workarounds that were suggested, none of which sufficiently solved this problem. We've just learned to accept this deficit, and at this point, I don't believe it's solvable or it would have been solved by now.

So to avoid having to explain to our clients in detail about the issues with video playback, we now tell departments that our signage can't really do video.

Wish I had a better answer.

Thanks,
Robert