Important Announcement: Removal of Video Item.

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Good morning!

We would like to make everyone aware of a significant change to Rise Vision. As of this morning, we have removed the Video Item from Editor. Over the past few months we have released both the Video Widget and the Video Folder Widget, both are suitable replacements for the Video Item. You can add these to any presentation, for free, from the Store.

If you are currently using the Video Item in your presentations, you will not see any changes to your Displays! The Video Item will continue to function normally on any Presentations that are already utilizing it.
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Posted 3 years ago

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Dave

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Does the HTML video widget work on the older "native" Linux displays/players package? I know that the folder widget does not. 
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Dave,

The video widget should work just fine on the native players.

Thanks,

Matthew
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I just tried the HTML video widget. It SEEMED to work on the Viewer, but not when I Published the presentation. Any idea why? Here is the link to the presentation:
rva.risevision.com/#/PRESENTATION_MANAGE/id=5f598ce1-d6ca-46b9-9c1e-71bb72b3046a?cid=c9656e22-1fe1-4bd0-8232-47d41accdff0
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Exact same problem I had. Was never able to resolve the issue. Finally gave up on the video widget.
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Mhumm. Two months ago, I noticed that the Video gadget was not caching the video from an external source. IIt sounds it is working now.
Just to notice that I liked that the Video Item allow the preview of the first video (with the first frame) while the Video Gadget you recommend now does not. Would it be possible to get this feature?
Thanks 
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Does this Widget Cache video to Device, Say intermittent Internet outage etc will video still display? Also I am currently testing on a Device locally... I have two 10 sec Video (.mp4 for now haven't converted to Webm yet).... Each video is 10 sec in a presentation, the presentation is "Scheduled" to run for 20 sec.... Now on the display the Videos are showing, but briefly shows a little loading symbol in between the video and it seems as though it is throwing the "timing" of the videos off..... Does this widget "Pull" the content everytime it needs to show or should it cache locally on the device? Maybe I did something wrong idk, just seems a little off
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Thanks so much.
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Thanks very much Alan! I realise my last comment may have seemed a bit harsh, sorry - I'm very happy with Rise Vision so far!
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Timing is critical for us and we experienced the same results with video and scheduling constantly going off sync.  Perhaps it is a simple caching issue but not reliable for our clients without proper sync.

I hope the focus on timing is well tested for the new and improved version.

Thanks Rise Guys
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J Juno,

Can I get some more information from you on this? What Video content are you using? Item, Widget, Folder Widget. Can you explain exactly what you're seeing? I'm having a little trouble ascertaining exactly what the issue is, but if I can get it confirmed, it will go a long way to improving the functionality.

Thanks!
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Hi Blake,

It has been some months since the last test. A lot of what we learn and see with Rise is just testing/experimenting for us to determine the level of maturity of the application. (we use an in house application for most production, but would love to one day move production to Rise)

From what I remember during those tests:

We took sample video clips from "stock" sites. They varied between 10-30 seconds of play time.

The samples were in AVI, but we also produced a converted copy in Webm.

First tests were with the video item, then eventually the video widget. (video folder has no value for us - not tested)

There was much confusion between the following:
Play until done | presentation duration time | schedule duration time
We decided to work exclusively with exact timing! (play until done unchecked)

We tried several combinations:
One video per presentation
Two video per presentation
One schedule with one presentation
One schedule with two presentations
Two schedules with one presentation

Duplicate above with avi then webm then combo of both.

We took the exact time of each video clip and added that time to the presentation duration and ensured the schedule duration times matched each presentations total time.

It's been a while and I wish I could give you log files of our testing, but what I remember is that we were not successful with any combination after several loops.

After time, video would be cut short or overrun.

We also wanted to be "exact" time specific, so that we could run a specific video at an exact time. For instance at 10AM (no matter what was on display) we wanted to have the scheduled video play. even with NTP sync at boot (2 PC's - identical time) there was latency between the screens being identical.

Why did we try so hard and do so much testing?

Similar to advertising done in Tim Horton's or McDonald's, at a certain scheduled times during the day we wanted to "sync" all displays to show a video that spans all screens.

Technically, it is three videos that all work together to give the illusion of one giant screen.

For our clients purpose, he wanted three screens of clouds with an airplane that flew across from one display to the other and off the edge of the furthest display. 
Then all the displays would revert back to "regular" programming.

In the end we were never able to get two separate displays with the same schedule to work to our requirements.

Let me know what other or more specific questions you may have.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled I don't see the option to add a video in the Add drop-down box.

I have a placeholder with 2 videos. When I went to properties and tried to add another video the video option under the Add drop-down box is not there. What happened?
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Hi Mike,

I've merged your topic into this announcement. please see the original post for all of your options.
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This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Video Option in Placeholder box when making a presentation.

Where has the add video option gone when completing a placeholder in a presentation?  Is there another method?
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Everyone, we have added the Video Item back to Rise Vision. If for some reason you don't see it please refresh your browser. 

Thanks for the feedback!