A better way to adjust the z-index?

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It is necessary that we (as in all rise customers) be able to adjust the z-index of any placeholder easily. It would be nice if in the design mode, in the properties box of each placeholder, that there would be a z-index adjuster. It would help the program become more useable, 100% across the board. please implement this idea, because it is Needed and important for everyone. Thank You!
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Thanks for the suggestion!

If anybody else is interested in something like this, please +1 the thread.

Thanks.
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Good point. Will work into next spec for the editor. Thanks
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What happened to his idea?

I have an older presentation, and I want to add a Image Folder widget to it to allow me to cycle through different backgrounds of this older presentation to make it 'fresher'.

So I need to change the z-index. Is there a way in the RV interface to do this yet?

If not, what's the best way to edit the code? For example,  when I added this image folder widget, it was added as z-index 10 in the HTML, causing it to display over any other placeholder.

Should I just manually change the z-index to 1 for this Image Folder placeholder, then edit all the other placeholder's z-indexes to match. For example the placeholder with the former z-index number of 1 becomes  z-index 2, ... 3 becomes 4, etc.
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Don't think there is a direct manual control but you can do this through both the visual editor and the html editor.

Visual Editor: Right click the placeholder and use the "Move to Front" (makes it the most forward z-index and adjusts other placeholders accordingly), "Move Forward" (increases z-index by one and adjusts others accordingly), "Move Backward" (decreases z-index by one and adjusts others accordingly), and "Move to Back" (gives z-index of 0 and adjusts others accordingly)

HTML Editor: Manually change the z-index of the placeholder in question. As far as I can tell you do not need to modify the other z-index values as these will adjust accordingly.


In all cases the automatic adjustments are not perfect, especially if you are manually changing multiple z-index values. The editor is programmed with a default logic that can not perfectly predict your intention. So if you are making complex order changes it will always be better to handle all of them manually through the HTML editor.


Another Trick: You can apply z-index values through css. I have a few presentations that overlay a traffic map on top of my entire presentation at certain times of the day. This is great from a content standpoint, but can make it frustrating to use the visual editor because all other placeholders in my presentation are beneath this one. To get around this I have it set as the farthest back when I am working in the editor, but use css to apply a z-index of 200 (I just picked a very large value so I wouldn't have to worry about it again) that is applied when I display the presentation.

You can also use this trick to resize placeholders as well, allowing you to keep certain content elements out of the way in the visual editor while allowing them to take up a large amount of space in the presentation when it is fully displayed.
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Thanks for all the great info!

I had tried the "Move to Back", but it didn't work for me. Maybe 10 is too many placeholders at once. I ended up editing the html and manually typed in the z-index numbers.

But these alternative methods are surely good to know.

Thanks again,
Robert
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z-index in the placeholder box would be great. Simple to incorporate into the presentation module and would save experts much time.

Perhaps in a future revision of Rise?

I have the same problem. We do so many intricate things with a display that our presentations can get extremely complex and z-index is key to success.

The problem is that large ones are on top of small ones and it can be a nightmare to use move to back or front. 

A couple of times we had to rebuild an entire presentation because we chose to use the move to front or back.
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Our new Editor https://editor.risevision.com which is still under construction but available for early preview has the Z Order on the Placeholder Properties as per the image below, and you can check it out at the URL to see it live. Let me know your thoughts on it. Thanks!

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I like it. It's a nicely updated layout with a more efficient design of the interface.

Are the the other parts of RV, like the Schedule or Devices, getting an update with more options, also?
 
Thanks,
Robert
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I can see the schedules URL. Again nice design. Are there added setting options for this interface also?

The displays URL comes up with an error:  "This webpage is not available.  DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN" I don't know if the cause is on my end or your end.
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Robert,

displays.risevision.com is working for me locally, as well as on a remote connection with another computer. It may be your local network having a dns issue.
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Perhaps. It is working today.
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rcruse,

Just wanting to follow up, have you had any further issues accessing displays.risevision.com?

Justin
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It's working today also. I noticed the orientation checkbox. Nice.
Are there other new features in these new  updated interfaces we should know about?
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Robert,

In the schedules.risevision.com App I really like the feature that allows me to make a copy of a presentation that already in the schedule! It makes scheduling presentations that may reference the same content easy!