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Robb (Technology Guru) December 13, 2010 21:47

Linux and more... just released

Beta 7 has just been released to production and with it our Linux Display Player is finally here (Ubuntu 10.10 32 bit version). If you are a Linux fan and you don't want the cost of a Display Player operating system have we got a solution for you.

In addition to Linux we also added the ability to restart a Player at a scheduled time each day and to improve the robustness of the Player a process that runs on the Display computer now checks for software updates every 10 minutes (it was 30 minutes before) and if for any reason the system has failed it will automatically restart it. The every 10 minute software update shouldn't be confused with content updates - anything you change on the server for your Presentation will be picked up and shown at least once per minute.



In addition we have added a setting to hide or show the Mouse Pointer depending upon whether or not you want it visible for touch screen Presentations or not and behind the scenes we surfaced the ability for a Gadget, or any Presentation HTML / Java for that matter, to access the Display's address as defined by you in the Display's settings on the server from our API. We have found in some situations the Chromium browser geo-location is wrong so if you need the exact address of your Display for local Weather, Tweets nearby, or Groupon deals in the neighbourhood this function is for you.



On top of the above there have been a bunch of performance improvements and some clean-ups around how companies and users can be deleted and users once removed from a company can sign up under new companies. Mainly housekeeping on our part.

Next up we have a Twitter Gadget coming and our Dashboard Gadgets are now underway. The Dashboard Gadget implementation is actually really interesting. Rather than just write a bunch of Gadgets that report on the status of your network we are making the underlying data of our system available to you through the Google Visualization API to make it easy to visually report on your system and what it is doing. The Twitter Gadget will be out before Christmas and the first Dashboard Gadget with the API will be available by mid January.

As always we would love to hear your feedback in the Forum.
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  • Robb EMPLOYEE
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    Robb (Technology Guru) December 14, 2010 00:23
    A few of my favorite things about Beta 7:

    1. Restart functionality - Choose when you want your Display to restart, any time of the day.

    2. Linux Player! - This thing is great. I dare you to find a reason to have to reboot ever again:). Aside from updates....grr...updates.

    3. Presentation restart after crashing - If the chrome.exe process crashes, and you are sitting on your desktop, no worries. After 10 minutes, the Player will realize that Chrome.exe has crashed, and start it back up again, good as new. This way if you have content that is crashing your Presentation, you can at least figure out what it is without having to connect to the Display every so often to restart the Presentation.

    Let us know what you think of Beta 7!
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  • Hoppingturtle CHAMP
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    Hoppingturtle December 14, 2010 00:52
    I just downloaded the Linux installer for the test app. It has a .sh extension and keeps opening up in a text edit window. How do I execute this script?
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  • Hoppingturtle CHAMP
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    Hoppingturtle December 14, 2010 00:55
    I'm just gonna go ahead and answer my own question!

    How do I run an .sh file to install the software?

    .sh file is nothing but the shell script to install given application or to perform other tasks under UNIX like operating systems. The easiest way to run .sh shell script in Linux or UNIX is to type the following commands.

    Open the terminal (your shell prompt) and type the command:

    sh file.sh

    OR

    bash file.sh
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  • Robb EMPLOYEE
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    Robb (Technology Guru) December 14, 2010 00:56
    Naturally we expected everyone to be genius' at Ubuntu, like we are...not.

    We have the info on how to run the that file here at our help site , but to avoid the jump:

    Once the installation file has been downloaded, right click on it and choose the “Properties” menu. On the “Permissions” tab, check the checkbox: “Allow executing file as program”. Now double click on the installer file, and choose the “Run” or “Run in Terminal” option. This will begin the installation of the Linux Player. Choose Run in Terminal if you want to see the whole rundown of what it is doing.

    Hope that helps!
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  • Hoppingturtle CHAMP
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    Hoppingturtle December 14, 2010 04:01
    Well... You COULD do it Robb's way. BUT why not do it my way while eating the red pill, listening to the matrix soundtrack and dodging bullets mr. Anderson? ^^
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  • Robb EMPLOYEE
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    Robb (Technology Guru) December 14, 2010 16:19
    Another cool feature of Beta 7 is the cache being cleared upon reboot. This way there is no chance of older versions of Gadgets or corrupted content compromising the Display.
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  • David Perelman
    David Perelman September 22, 2011 18:21
    I followed the steps above and the script runs but that's it, nothing loads up, no programs are installed...

    I apologize, it's been years since I used linux.

    Here is the output from the script:

    mediacom@mediacom-EB1020:~/Downloads$ sh rvplayer-installer.sh
    Rise Vision Player Installer ver.1.1.0010
    Checking for updates...
    --2011-09-22 14:15:49-- https://rvaserver.appspot.com/player/...
    Resolving rvaserver.appspot.com... 209.85.145.141
    Connecting to rvaserver.appspot.com|209.85.145.141|:443... connected.
    HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
    Length: unspecified [text/plain]
    Saving to: `STDOUT'

    [ ] 107 --.-K/s in 0s

    2011-09-22 14:15:49 (1.45 MB/s) - written to stdout [107]

    Restart=0
    InstallerUpgrade=0
    ChromiumVersion=
    ChromiumURL=
    FlashVersion=
    FlashURL=
    FlashVersion=
    FlashURL=
    Installer is up to date.
    cd: 350: can't cd to rvplayer-installer.sh
    mediacom@mediacom-EB1020:~/Downloads$
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  • Robb EMPLOYEE
    Robb (Technology Guru) September 22, 2011 18:29
    From the bottom of the text, it appears it os trying to change the directory to the rvplayer-installer file, which it shouldn't do.

    David, can you confirm that this is indeed Linux Ubuntu, either 10.04 or 11.04?

    Also, can you confirm that you tried my option instead Hoppingturtles? Not that anything is wrong with his way, it's just that mine is a bit easier:
    Once the installation file has been downloaded, right click on it and choose the “Properties” menu. On the “Permissions” tab, check the checkbox: “Allow executing file as program”. Now double click on the installer file, and choose the “Run” or “Run in Terminal” option. This will begin the installation of the Linux Player. Choose Run in Terminal if you want to see the whole rundown of what it is doing.

    Let us know if you get the same results after confirming all of the above.

    Thanks!
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  • David Perelman
    David Perelman September 22, 2011 18:48
    Hi Robb, Thanks for the quick reply.
    I am running Ubuntu 11,04
    I have tried both ways, first I used you method because yes the gui is easier.
    When that didn't work I used terminal to confirm all the settings were applied, and to get the output I posted above.
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    Robb (Technology Guru) September 22, 2011 18:57
    Interesting, I haven't been able to replicate this error.

    Can I ask you to install Teamviewer on the Display and then email support@risevision.com with the Connection ID and password? I'd like to see for myself if there is a reason for the installation issue.

    Thanks.
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  • Robb EMPLOYEE
    Robb (Technology Guru) September 22, 2011 19:03
    Also another thought just came to mind, are you sure that you are running as an Administrator who has full access to the machine?
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  • David Perelman
    David Perelman September 22, 2011 19:20
    email sent, thanks again!
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  • Robb EMPLOYEE
    Robb (Technology Guru) September 22, 2011 19:36
    David,

    I think the issue here is the user that is logged into the machine is not an Administrator. Administrative privileges are necessary to install and run the Player.
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    Robb (Technology Guru) September 22, 2011 19:39
    Also I noticed that this machine is running at near 100% CPU usage on both processors even while just sitting on the desktop. You will likely see some significant issues with Presentations if all your CPU is being chewed up by something else.
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  • scott.toth
    scott.toth November 18, 2011 01:54
    Any word on a resolution to this issue? I'm trying to install on 11.10 and having the exact same problem... By the way, I'm definitely logged in as an administrator and have ran the script as sudo.
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    Robb (Technology Guru) November 18, 2011 02:03
    Scott,

    I haven't had any issues installing the Linux Player, and haven't heard of any other users having issues when installing under the administrative user.

    However there could be issues with 11.10 as we have not tested on 11.10 yet, as you can see by our browser matrix.

    You may want to consider rolling back to an earlier version of Ubuntu Linux and see if this corrects the issue. We will be testing on the new 11.10 version of Ubuntu in the coming weeks and if there is an issue, we will get it corrected.

    Thanks!
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  • Robb EMPLOYEE
    Robb (Technology Guru) November 18, 2011 13:29
    Scott,

    I recall a user emailing me a while back explaining that the installed a clean version of 11.10 the day it came out, and were having some issues. We recommended they follow the steps listed in this forum discussion, as well as run the following:

    sudo apt-get install libcurl3
    sudo apt-get install libnspr4-0d
    sudo apt-get install libplc4-0d
    sudo apt-get install libnss3-1d

    Let me know if that works for you. I am going to upgrade to 11.10 today myself, and if I have any issues, I will try running these and see if that corrects the issue.

    Let us know how you make out.

    Thanks!
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  • scott.toth
    scott.toth November 18, 2011 13:38
    Great. Thanks for the quick replies. I'll check it out later this afternoon and let you know how it works.
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    Robb (Technology Guru) November 18, 2011 16:56
    Scott,

    I upgraded to 11.10 this morning and did a complete reinstall of the Player and everything is working like a charm.

    I'm not too big a fan of 11.10 though :), hopefully it will grow on me.
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  • lmmoseley1969
    lmmoseley1969 February 15, 2012 05:20
    So, are there any plans for a repository with actual packages? If not can someone give me the information of where the polipo files go. Also, why is there what appears to be a custom flashplayer? I use standard flashplayer 11.1 with Chromium browser, not Google Chrome. Do you need packages made for you?
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    Robb (Technology Guru) February 15, 2012 13:47
    Currently there are no plans to create a repository with actual packages, as everything that is necessary for Player to run is included in the installer script. In some cases you may have to run the 4 commands above, however these are rare cases, I have never had to run them myself when using Ubuntu, but let me know if you are having issues where you have to run them.

    In Linux, the polipo files are installed in the same directory as the rvplayer: Username\rvplayer\polipo.

    The Flash DLL is copied from the Chrome plugins directory on a separate machine, and used as the Flash DLL on a Display, we didn't create a custom flashplayer. Can I ask where you are seeing this custom flashplayer?

    Thanks!
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  • lmmoseley1969
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    lmmoseley1969 February 19, 2012 02:08
    libgcflashplayer.so as opposed to libflashplayer.so I assumed something was different from the different name. I also found polipo in the Ubuntu repository but yours seems very trimmed down with a specific set of files. I asked about the repo as I can build packages from binaries (not from source) to install to a proper location and I was also curious as to why Google Chrome and not Chromium which is in the standard Ubuntu repos? If there is no difference between using Google's official browser and the open source version, I assume that using chromium-browser from repos is ok, correct? Same for Adobe's official flashplayer plugin. Is it just 11.0?
    The only difference I have noticed is the open source port in repos actually has a plugins folder and enables, Flashplayer (libflashplayer.so), JRE Plugin (libnpjp2.so) and moonlight too. Can you tell me which customizations have been made to polipo, so that I might make my own Debian/Ubuntu installer packages with a system wide setup. The reason is that I and a friend are working on ECOMANI nettops for Digital display devices and I am working on the system so that I can export the system to an install disk instead of having to rework each install.
    Thanks Robb! =P
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  • Robb EMPLOYEE
    Robb (Technology Guru) February 20, 2012 13:29
    Your knowledge of Linux leaves mine in the dust, so I am going to pass this question over to our resident Linux expert, and I will update this post with his reponse.

    Thanks!
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    Robb (Technology Guru) February 20, 2012 21:22
    Hi there,

    Got the word back from our Linux Developer that nothing was trimmed from polipo, but evidently something was added to it in Ubuntu package. In any case, we are fairly certain our installation is missing anything necessary.

    Also he strongly advised against using Polipo and or Chrome/Chromium that comes with Linux instead of the ones we provide, as this would make us unable to auto-upgrade when a new version or fix comes up that we include in our installation package.

    I hope that helps!
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